Auryn/Medinah - 2021 - 2nd Half General Discussion

Hi CS,
I always enjoy your posts. Auryn going into production is obviously a milestone that we’ll all remember. We’ve all heard the adage that the junior mineral exploration sector is an ultra-high-risk investment neighborhood offset by ultra-high-rewards. We know the oft-quoted statistic that less than 1-in-1,000 junior explorers will ever bring a deposit into production. I participated in a class a while back wherein the mining analyst giving the class said that this statistic is way off base and that it’s closer to 1-in-5,000 junior explorers. So, the question becomes what is the transmission mechanism in between a junior explorer actually going into very high-grade profitable gold production and their shareholders receiving those ultra-high-rewards. In the case of Auryn/Medinah, I would suggest that the transmission mechanism is Maurizio himself. I would suggest restructuring that 1-in-1,000 statistic a bit in order to customize it to Auryn/Medinah. What are the chances that a junior explorer can reach that 1-in-1,000 status, and do all of this WITHOUT inducing the significant dilution usually associated with getting a deposit into production? In other words, what are the chances that management of that 1-in1,000 junior explorer cut all of the checks necessary to get into production, charge a zero per cent interest rate and only call in the cash advance if positive cash flow allows the payback of the loan. I don’t want to pretend to have an answer to the statistical chances for this scenario.

The ultra-high-rewards are going to belong to the shareholders of the producing junior that did NOT dilute their share structure to death while joining the 1-in-1,000 fraternity. In terms of geological deposits that bring about ultra-high-rewards, the characteristic that distinguishes the shareholder base being huge gainers from the moderate gainers is EARLY GOLD PRODUCTION OPPORTUNITIES. It is not early copper production opportunities. Why is this? It’s because gold production can be achieved with a lot less capital expenditure than copper production can. The reality is that the typical struggling junior explorer needs to sell shares in order to raise funds for exploration and development only to run into the beyond distant odds of getting the project into production at a time in which its share price is low because it hasn’t distinguished itself amongst its competitors yet. It’s a terrible catch-22 but it is what it is and it helps explain the distant odds. There is no ultra-high-reward owed to the shareholders of a junior producer like Auryn if it had 4 billion shares outstanding when that first truckload of ore comes rumbling down the road off of the mountain.

Auryn/Medinah dodged a HUGE dilutionary bullet when Maurizio stepped up and started cutting checks with zero interest rate on the payback. The payback will be made AFTER the company has become that 1-in-1,000 fraternity brother and ONLY if the company becomes a 1-in-1,000 fraternity brother. This is just opposite the typical junior needing to sell shares when the share price is in the gutter and those shares are certainly not going to be returned if the junior explorer doesn’t get initiated into that fraternity. In the typical junior explorer financing scenario, the investors are taking that “ultra-high-risk” and they are only receiving RESTRICTED securities that are not liquid. If during the time those shares are illiquid, the junior explorer meets its demise like the average junior explorer clearly does, then the financier is out of luck. The financier needs to protect himself from this fate. The financier is going to mandate a STEEP DISCOUNT to even the paltry share price that the junior explorer is trading at prior to becoming a fraternity brother. This is the MEGA-DILUTION that even the successful fraternity brothers often face. This is also the difference between ultra-high-rewards and moderate rewards for these fraternity brothers. As opposed to base metal producers of copper, zinc and nickel, gold producers are awarded a much higher P/E multiple. The problem with a copper-alone deposit is the incredibly high CAPEX associated with going through the steps needed to go into production. There are no EARLY PRODUCTION OPPORTUNITIES in most copper deposits. The potential dilution during this timeframe spent trying to attract the attention of a major is huge. The junior explorers seeking the ultra-high rewards are essentially involved in a RACE to get into profitable GOLD production WITHOUT MEGA-DILUTION if any deposit they are trying to develop does indeed have early GOLD production opportunities.

What I’ve noticed about Maurizio is his laser-like focus on that 70 million outstanding share figure that Auryn sports. He knows that Auryn, the gold producer, will soon be trading at a generous multiple of EARNINGS divided by the NUMBER OF SHARES OUTSTANDING. He knows not to raise any funds from selling shares until the share price reaches, as a total guess, perhaps $6 to $8, if ever. The cash flow from operations will bypass the need to raise funds in the interim period. Going into very high-grade early gold production will protect that rather impressive 70 million shares outstanding figure from becoming bloated.

As your due diligence may have shown, Maurizio has a history of philanthropy. I’ll let you guys determine if his fronting of the money needed to go into production and attaching a zero-interest rate payback policy as well as no payback needed if the company does not go into successful production producing positive cash flow, is a philanthropic move with great financial risk or a somewhat riskless move because he knows what he’s got. Who cares?

A LOW NUMBER OF SHARES OUTSTANDING AND AN EXTREMELY TIGHT SHARE STRUCTURE: TWO DIFFERENT THINGS

The number of shares “outstanding” (“shares O/S”) will serve as the denominator for the “EARNINGS PER SHARE OUTSTANDING” ratio. Investors will multiply this “EPS” number by an appropriate multiple in order to gauge where a stock should be trading at. This multiple will be highly dependent upon projected production growth over time. New GOLD producers fetch the highest “multiple” within the mining sector because of the robust production growth profiles they can generate. The # of shares O/S is highly determinative of the share price of any company. In a situation like Auryn finds itself in, it’s even more important because it also determines the generosity of future cash dividends based on a given amount of cash able to be dividended out and how many ways that cash needs to be split. Later, I’ll try to develop the concept of how Auryn being converted into a “dividend machine” was pretty much inevitable.

As opposed to a low number of shares O/S, a tight share structure has more to do with the “supply” of shares that are READILY SELLABLE at any given time. This readily sellable “supply” variable will interact with the “demand” variable in order to determine a share price as part of the “price discovery process”. The approximately 65% of the shares held in a RESTRICTED/CONTROL SECURITIES format by management are not readily sellable. They are not “readily sellable supply” due to the terms of Rule 144 of the 1933 Securities Act which only permit a quarterly trickle of share sells and only after warning investors via the filing of a Form 144 announcing intent to sell shares. Visibility of management’s intended sales of securities is a wonderful asset for investors. The interesting thing about RESTRICTED/CONTROL SECURITIES is that they share in the same cash dividend distributions as “free-trading” shares. This is why I feel that cash dividend distributions were going to be the primary mode for providing shareholder rewards all along due to this extremely atypical share structure. I personally want a lot of dividend cash flowing into Maurizio’s wallet because I’ve seen the magic that wallet can induce by advancing funds in order to achieve the next level of development or production WITHOUT UNTOWARD DILUTION.

An exceedingly “tight” share structure, like that of Auryn, is conducive to share price appreciation when “demand” exceeds readily sellable “supply”. Share price appreciation is one method of providing shareholder rewards and it also mitigates the effect of untoward dilution if management wanted to raise large quantities of cash through the sale of shares, which I highly doubt will ever occur with the Auryn/Medinah shareholders having access to that magic wallet. Cash dividend distributions is another method of providing shareholder rewards and it is often a more effective method to boost AFTER TAX INCOME because of the existence of “qualifying dividends” which are treated very favorably with the taxing authorities.

SO, WHAT DO WE CONCENTRATE ON NOW AND WHY?

I’m very appreciative of Kevin’s efforts to meet with Maurizio in NYC and relay to us some goals and projections. They listed 5 goals/projections, the first of which was: “Modestly improve the scale of operations.” Kevin made a post subsequent to this stating that we were actually at Step #0 in this regard. This caught me off guard. It turns out he was defining “operations” as shipping to Enami. I was thinking that “mining and stockpiling” extremely high-grade ore qualified as “operations”. Recently we learned that the final draft of the exploitation permit had just arrived and that the truck had just been shipped out to the plateau. Without BOTH of them occurring there would be no shipping of ore. From a “de-risking” point of view, a lot of RISK just flew out the window. As might have been expected due to Covid, both achievements took way more time than they would have without the Covid-related supply chain disruptions and permit approval process being almost paralyzed. I don’t think 2% of the Auryn/Medinah shareholders appreciate the importance of that exploitation permit/”Mensura” being in hand.

We’re still not 100% sure if the September 29 intersection with a vein thought to be the DL 1 Vein was indeed that vein. We do know that management couldn’t reach the earlier projected mining rate of 40 tpd UNTIL intersecting that vein. We have seen video images of ore being stockpiled outside of the new Antonino Adit. I’m going to assume that by now we may have already “modestly improved the scale of operations” but there are no guarantees. With all of the Covid-related delays involved in receiving both the truck and final exploitation permit, the silver lining of this cloud may have been the ability to mine the ore and stockpile the ore. This in turn should jumpstart the shipping efforts to Enami.

One of the things I personally am going to keep an eye on closely are the grades of the ore being shipped to Enami AND GRADED BY ENAMI. Why is this? Just like the grades of the ore previously shipped to Enami and their predecessor processors, they will probably be somewhat consistent and have “continuity”. In a mesothermal vein deposit like this one, the ore being shipped is probably going to be shipped for at least several decades. In this industry “GRADE IS EVERYTHING”. Why is this? It’s because “PROFIT IS EVERYTHING”. Since many of the costs in mining are somewhat fixed, when you talk about profits on a “per ounce” basis, you take what you’re paid for an ounce of gold dore which is around $1,800 and you subtract out the COST PER OUNCE in order to determine profits PER OUNCE. If the relatively fixed amount of cost involved in mining and processing a tonne of ore is divided by 45 gpt as opposed to the more common 6 gpt gold, then the costs PER OUNCE mined and processed will be extremely cheap on a per gram or per ounce basis for the richer ore as opposed to the less rich ore. Since “PROFIT IS EVERYTHING” then “GRADE IS KING” because the costs are so low on a “per ounce” basis. In a day’s work at a mine, you’re going to produce a lot more ounces of gold when mining high grade ore. Each one of those ounces will be more profitable.

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Hey Doc,

I always enjoy your posts, but I think you are way off on the point you made above. It makes zero financial sense to take a dividend and get taxed on it just to turn around and give it back to the company as a loan, interest free or not. Why wouldn’t he just leave it in the company if it is to be used to reinvest for advancing operations?

My opinion only - when dividends come the company won’t be needed any loans.

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Jimmyp1127, I think Brecciaboy was trying to say (maybe some inartful language in there) that he’s grateful for Maurizio having advanced his own funds at a zero interest rate - and that we as shareholders should understand that Maurizio is maybe MORE focused on dividends, as opposed to selling his shares and moving on, because he has handcuffed himself from selling his shares on account of the regulations. Those regulatory requirements make this a tight shareholder structure, one where only about 35% is free-trading on a daily basis, which will eventually inure to our benefit share price-wise anyway. I could be wrong. Thanks for your input.

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All of us are extremely grateful for Maurizio! I agree that point was being made in his post. The section I carved out was pretty clear to me though that he is suggesting dividends may precede an investment of funds to advance operations, whereby Maurizio then infuses more from his magic wallet. I don’t see that as making any sense.

The purpose of engaging on this point is expectation as to the timing of dividends. A share buyback or dividends could conceivably happen before a major investment to scale up production if the pps is still suppressed. That would serve as an effective catalyst for pps appreciation and put us in a better position for a larger financing arrangement with a third party. However, if it is Maurizios intention to continue self funding the advancement of operations, it does not make sense to take cash out and then put it right back in. He would be screwing himself two ways: First he would be taking an unnecessary tax hit on the dividend. Secondly, a dividend would go out to the rest of the shareholders as well, excluding our participation in the reinvestment of funds toward operation. I love Docs enthusiasm, but we need to keep it balanced on some of these unlikely scenarios.

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When speculative accumulation was occurring between 2013-2016, PPS was running anywhere from between 11 to 2 cents. Yes, dilution was occurring, but it was also believed that AURYN plc had accumulated 300M share somewhere between 8 cents and a snickle (sic lol) in MDMN. Then in late 2016 shareholders got the unhappy news of dilution to the tune of about 3B (2.8 B today). A “total guess” of $6-$8 is very reasonable and equates to 0.06-0.08 (early speculative trading before 2016) if one were to apply a 100:1 reverse factor as was applied when normalizing the share structure of AUMC to a 100M shares authorized. The OS was set at 70M, where CDCH received 5% of the newly created AUMC shares, free trading, and the remaining 65% were apportioned to AURYN plc investors/operators and MDMN shareholders as restricted shares. The current share price of MDMN does not have that 100 reverse factor that had been applied to arrive at the 5M (5%) share structure of the tightly held free trading AUMC (formerly CDCH converted) shares.

The next several Qtr filings should have the reduced risk of production from the Fortuna area mines reflected in an increasing AUMC price. Will MDMN trade higher proportional to AUMC.? That is the current speculation.

Hi Jimmy P,

I agree with your comments but let me come at it from a different angle. What if the cash dividend distribution PROCESS itself could be converted into an ASSET that when combined with the other asset (profits from the sale of gold) augment that asset in a 2 plus 2 equals 8 fashion?

I think what you are getting at is cash dividends being used to calibrate pps appropriately if the pps is not reflecting the true value of the assets.

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Only BB could make the giant leap from pre-production and the purchase of 20 ton truck to dividends and an $500M market cap ($8 per share) so seamless. Medinah shareholders/optimism are, by far, the most valuable asset in this play.

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Jimmyp1127 - the people I hang around with call that a “capitalization” rate. So, if a company pays 5% per year dividend, then you take the dollar amount of that dividend and divide by .05 in order to capitalize the dividend and arrive at what one might think a stock “should” be selling at. I think most gold miners pay relatively LOW dividends, maybe around 2%. You can do the math from there. Just one way of estimating what one thinks the share price should be …

Obnoxious statement. The hundreds of millions of dollars worth of mineralization that you so easily brush aside is the asset. Stop being salty that Maurizio didn’t need or want your financing package.

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I’ll say it again. As a fact. The reason Maurizio had to personally bankroll the company is b/c they couldn’t find other sources of capital in the three years they pursued it. Or maybe they just decided to take a 3 year vacation?

I have no doubt there are billions, let along hundreds of millions of dollars worth of mineralization in the mountain. This is exactly why invested in the first place. My point, there is a very wide gap b/w buying a truck and chasing veins to being a producer with dividends.

A more obnoxious claim would be that MDMN/AUMC has beaten the 1:1000 odds of becoming a producer, while avoiding dilution. On the first point, there’s a lot of “wood to chop” before becoming the “1”. Lots of miners accomplish bulk sampling without ever becoming a producer. On the latter point, the only shareholders who have avoided massive dilution would be those who bought shares POST Maurizio taking 75% of the assets after the 90% dilution from Lester.

I’m not saying these guys can’t become a producer nor am I minimizing the benefits of Maurizio’s loan to move a bit of rock. But any measurable production will require a meaningful third party financing and speculating that AUMC could support a $2 let alone $8 share price without this financing, is candidly, insane for anyone who understands this sector.

I was trying to be kind when I referred to shareholder “optimism”…

I don’t understand much about this investment, but I did understand and appreciate your sentiment, Baldy.

And I plead guilty regarding optimism.

A decade ago I was perhaps unduly hyper-optimistic the first time I heard about this “mountain full of gold in Chile.” My sanity was thoroughly tested for five grueling years, but the October 2016 shareholders meeting (meeting Wizard and Maurizio) restored my optimism, and it has lasted through this minute.

I don’t consider myself a big asset – just a get-rich-slow dabbler and gawker – but I am here, and I do believe I can maintain my optimism for another couple of years, if needed.

– madmen

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Very important paragraph here. You agree that there billions of dollars worth. This wide gap you continue to speak of is narrowing by the day. You admitted 40 tpd was doable in a previous post. If that’s doable, why isn’t 80 tpd, or 120 tpd doable by adding more equipment, crews, and trucks?

Nobody is arguing with you on the need for mechanization down the line. The plan is to self fund that via nearterm profits from the high grade gold production. Maurizio seems to be a straight shooter. He has not minced words when he clearly states that there will be no dilution and that there are plans for onsite processing.

Do you suggest we take your outlook over his? Is Maurizio being absurd in his outlook and objectives? It will be very interesting when they publicize financial forecast once production commences.

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Correct, Jimmyp1127, and I do believe Cornhusker above cites the fact that the new truck they purchased is rated for 23 tons. That means one truck can make TWO trips per day to make the 40 tons per day. Is that possible? I’m not exactly sure how far away the processor is, but I’m just assuming the two trips would be a pretty easy do. And if one truck can make two trips per day, why can’t two (or more) do the same? And if the ore they’re hauling around is high-grade, then what’s there to stop these people? One can be doubtful that the grade will not remain as anticipated (there are sober arguments to the contrary by our resident professor(s)), but there should be no argument about the logistics of getting the ore to the processor.

Minearalization is obviously critical but it doesn’t always (or often) translate into economic viability. Seabridge has discovered well over 100M ounces of gold but there is no guarantee that they will ever produce as the cost to do so will probably cost over $10B.

Point being, there are 1000’s of miners who have discovered valuable ounces in the ground who transition to bulk testing but never reach commercial production. Going from 40tpd (they might have stockpiled 80 tonnes total over the past quarter) to a producer issuing dividends and supporting a $500M market cap is a giant leap. This should not be a controverial statement.

Slowly self-funding this project is possible but highly unlikely. I agree, Maurizio is a straight shootter but mining is very difficult. Especially a boot strapped project. Which is why he hasn’t hit any of his previous outlook or objectives. Nor was Auryn fully “financed” to bring the project into production when he took the assets. That wasn’t “straight shooting” but I guess he deserves a pass given the circumstances.

Some action on MDMN this morning.

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Yeah, 40 million+ shares traded - something NEW is happening, maybe they got paid for some ore?

Hmmmm …

People getting in before the first checks start getting cashed

A perspective from the individual investor level.

Assumptions: Profits are distributed as dividends

130 production days ( 26 weeks X 5 days/week ) Winter months no mining.
23 tons shipped per day ( one truck load )
28 grams Gold per ton ( 1 ounce )
$1,000 profit per ton
$23,000 profit per day
$2,990,000 profit annually
.0427 profit per share ( $2,990,000/70,000,000 shares )
6.77% dividend yield ( .0427/.63 per share ) or
5.33% dividend yield ( .0427/.80 per share )

Pretty impressive dividend yields for pretty conservative assumptions!

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