Auryn/Medinah - 2024 2nd Half General Discussion

So, your guarantee is based on your opinion and not that you heard it from MC.

MC’s $5+ million is not secured, that is why his costs incurred are not reflected on the AUMC financial statements. He has some type of rights agreement with the company where he will get paid back when production proceeds. He will get reimbursed from the sale of ore before Aumc gets any revenue. See Notes to financial statements Note #4 Related party transactions. " There will be no repayment of those expenses from AURYN mining"

Another unsecured loan. The highest grade mine in the world, 50 (out of 52) weeks of anticipated production despite roads stacked with snow for half the year, 25gpt material miraculously turning into 100gpt without contemplating the concentration of tonnes (100t would need to become 25t), $5,000 tonnes of economic impact enhancement, etc, etc. Miracles never cease in Medinahland.

Its fun to throw out fantastical numbers/guesses, some have made a career of it, BUT its important to remember that people have actual $ at risk here.

I’m happy to ask MC why he has choosen NOT to disclose the terms of the financing but I’m not going to ask him how loans work.

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I’m on the road but have been able to catch up on some of the recent posts making some projections. The one concept I’m still having trouble with is why our transportation charges are supposed to be so high. Anybody?

I’m not too anxious to get back as I’m catching up visiting friends on the East Coast. Hoping no one on our forum suffered damage from Hurricane Helene. Many over here did. Looking to have a good year ahead…stay safe and healthy everyone!
EZ

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Ok EZ - In the meantime, I’m taking a stab at being the “Anybody,” :thinking: just until better explanations come along soon. Out of curiousity, maybe part of the transportation costs include the “…roads stacked with snow for half the year” according to a recent post.

Equipment to keep the roadways cleared of snow could be considered transportation costs. They’re not much different than the ore trucks since they are specific to the roads, that’s what I’m thinking. Please correct me if that’s not the case.

And what about transportation through the adits and mineral veins? At least those aren’t affected by the weather much. There are 3 levels at the DL2 to start with. What expense category would that process fall under? Do they anticipate taking some of the ore to Enami for any reason?

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And here we are a number of years later! Gold at the highest in history.
Mr M Gold is no show. No mention of of shares conversion. No trading as shares no longer listed!
No Shareholder meeting. At one point MDMN held 28.1% of AUMC. No excitement whatsoever ever.

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I find it concerning and bizarre that Wizard has all but disappeared. People are concerned that the details of the financing have not been transparent, where are you Kevin? Are you part of the insider deal?

If MC wants to run this company like its private, then he needs to buy us all out and make it private. Trust is dwindling. He essentially orchestrated a massive takeover of all of the assets from a related party (JJ) while shareholders were being defrauded. Was there ever any money recovered from Les Price Estate? Oh thats right, MC can just wipe his hands clean of anything Medinah because he spun this into AUMC. So we sit here without any transparency of when shares will be distributed, the details of this financing, and when we will ever become fully audited so that they actually have an obligation not to mislead us.

Its been a decade since he’s taken over. This has not been a success. 10 years of opportunity cost is not offset by preserving a 70 million share structure, especially now that some vague $20M dividend obligation exists under this financing arrangement. We’ve all had enough of this CRAP!!!

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The silence is deafening here……you hit some key points that many here have been questioning for over a decade.
Between the loyal holders here I’m sure we all could have understood a true finance package under regular terms!
Obviously with the price of gold right now our so called stock pile could have proven we had the goods and ability to be self vested……back door at the 4 year rate seems almost like what has been happening to both Can and US sneaky insiders become wealthy!

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Contact info for Auryn mining corp.

ir@aurynminingcorp.com

1-317-204-2020

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It seems like management anticipated that shareholders might be headed towards a point in time at which they demanded more information from management. In 2 of the last 3 quarterly updates, in a preemptive fashion, management interjected a new paragraph:

“Commitment to Transparency and Engagement

AURYN is dedicated to maintaining open and transparent communication with our investors and stakeholders. We understand the importance of keeping you informed and engaged with our progress.”

I’m wondering if management anticipated that shareholders would want to know more information about the funding than management was either allowed to give or prepared to give.

The structure of the funding was a bit atypical. One part of the funding appears to be a fairly straight forward note with a 10-month grace period and payments due over a 5-year timeframe. The funders advanced $500,000 out of a potential $1 million. Later management referred to this as a “good faith advance” when they stated: “ This follows the good faith advance of $500,000 received after the agreement on May 28th.

With financing now fully secured, we can begin the construction and operational launch of a 100-ton-per-day flotation plant. We anticipate the plant will be fully operational by May 2025.”

My assumption is that this “advance” was then “advanced” to the manufacturers so that they could start “constructing” or possibly “assembling” the FF plant. When the price of gold is going nuts then, all of a sudden, everything becomes an emergency because there’s no guarantees as to how long these prices may last. I’m going to guess that the time clock started ticking the second the up front money landed at the manufacturers.

Kevin made the post a while back that Auryn had 2 options. They could go into production and sell the previously stockpiled ore as well as freshly-mined ore to Enami, over an undisclosed period of time, i.e. self-fund the FF plant, and hope that Enami didn’t screw Auryn or they could go to a funder and get some “quick money” (which might be more expensive money), in order to get the FF plant up and operating in a shorter amount of time. The behind-the-scenes financial gurus could pencil out where the breakeven point was and which path should be chosen.

With the price of gold at or near all-time highs, either option became a viable option. Selling previously stockpiled ore to Enami at a time when the POG was going nuts made good sense, but so too did getting some “quick money” in order to get the FF plant fired up that much quicker.

Before making a decision, Auryn went into “mining and stockpiling” mode at the DL2 Mine for a period of a little over 200-days. This made good sense no matter which of the 2 paths they chose. It made sense if they opted to ship the ore to Enami because they could sell that much more ore that much quicker. If they went for the “quick money” via a funder, then the stockpiled ore could serve as “ore feed” for the new plant just in case it took Auryn a while to ramp up production to the 100 tpd “throughput” level of the FF plant. They were mining ore “directly from the vein” which suggests that the grade is going to be extremely high since the surrounding, nonmineralized wall rock granodiorite, was apparently avoided.

As far as how much ore they stockpiled, all management stated was that the mining and stockpiling occurred at a “modest” pace over this timeframe. Whether or not they had an engineer estimate the “grade and tonnage” of the stockpiled ore, we don’t know. If I were the funder, I sure would have had the stockpiled ore checked out for both grade and tonnage. In fact, I would have mandated that Auryn do a bunch of “mining and stockpiling” just as a means to “derisk” their funding. You might recall how a recent press release cited that the funders had more due diligence to do, EVEN AFTER THEY ADVANCED $500,000 IN CASH. That extra due diligence might have had something to do with the funders measuring the grade and tonnage of the stockpiled ore. Who knows?

In the press release announcing the funding, management kept using the term “up to …”. Auryn could borrow “up to” $1 million up front i.e. another $500,000 was available, after the first $500,000 was tendered, if they so chose. As far as the “EQUITY FINANCING”, Auryn could borrow “up to” another $3 million. The payback was “capped” at $20 million over the course of 5 years payable as cash dividends attached to preferred shares.

I think we can all agree that Auryn is not going to draw down much money on that $3 million line of credit, if that is how it was set up, if there were better options available, like shipping to Enami or waiting on a superior offer from a new party happy to see Auryn about to have a new FF plant. If Auryn is using the current funder as a “bridge” funder that could be rapidly replaced, then it might make sense not to expand too much open releasing the terms if that might be seen as misleading shareholders. I think all of us might have assumed that there was more to the story than Auryn paying $20 million to secure $4 million. The use of those “up to’s” in the funding press release might suggest that Auryn could access any amount of that capital that they so chose, and that there was no mandate to access it all. It would make sense to me that the terms of any funding deal were likely to get better once any potential funder saw that a new FF plant was en route.

Once again, Kevin made a comment stating that: if the funders are able to max out on that $20 million payback, just imagine what we shareholders would be receiving as our share of these cash dividends. I can’t speak for Kevin, but this suggests to me that the profits of the mining operations are going to be dividended out to the funders and shareholders, as per an agreed upon “split”, over the first 5 years (or less if the funders can max out sooner) and then the funders are out of the equation. There was absolutely no share structure DILUTION to be suffered by the Auryn/Medinah shareholders. Maurizio kept his word because he had stated many times that the 70 million shares outstanding figure was not likely to go anywhere.

All of the “up to’s” included in the press release suggests that Auryn is going to be allowed to draw down on this financing facility at their option.

My question is, is there a POG at which management says to heck with it, let’s start shipping that extremely high-grade stockpiled ore to Enami, in order to lessen the amount of money we need to tap into via that other facility. For me, the key here was accessing that QUICK MONEY, in order to engage the manufacturers, and get the construction and/or assembly going sooner than later. I don’t have a good feel for what the “lead times” are, other than the estimated timeframe to commission the plant “by May”.

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Congrats to Gold making new highs! Plus $700 an ounce from when we hit the DL2.

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Sorry Jim, at least one of us does NOT agree with this assumption. Are you seriously defending AUMC’s decision of not releasing the details of this financing because Maurizio may have an “out” (better terms, Enami, etc)? Lenders insist on binding deals so that the borrower can’t back out of agreed terms. Sometimes its a breakup fee or other significantly punitive measures that are put in place to ensure that the borrower can’t simply flake every time a more attractive deal shows up. This ensurance is the cornerstone of financing, without which, lenders would not be able to operate.

I can’t pretend to know exactly how much a 100tpd FF plant will cost but even $3-$4M is going to be tight. Its extremely unlikely that the entire facility isn’t drawn. The mine I’m working with in Peru is spending ~$8M on a 350tpd FF and CIL plant. The plant isn’t all that expensive but the infrastructure costs (roads, water, power) for these remote, high-elevation projects can be pretty pricey.

AUMC made the decision to NOT ship ore to Enami (we have a different opinion on why). They made their bed. After taking over 6 months to land financing, and another several months to announce that it was finalized/binding, any suggestion that they would (or even could) walk away at this stage is “silly.”

If Auryn is “dedicated to maintaining open and transparent communication” they should start by providing details of the financing. Without those details its literally imposible for any sophisticated investor to value the company.

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MC’s unwillingness to be transparent is causing BB to become more and more absurd with his suggetions. :roll_eyes:

Oh dont worry they wont draw down on the $3M. Oh dont worry its just a placeholder until better financing arrives. Is everyone here seeing how ridiculous this is starting to sound?

How about they assure us this isn’t an inside deal and we can go from there!

Its becoming increasingly suspicious that at best case Wizard is being used as a pawn by MC to keep goodwill with shareholders while he has his way with this investment or worst case, Kevin is in on it. I really really hate to think this way because I trusted Wizard. I can’t tell you how dissapointed I am right now by this lack of transparency and his silence.

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All of us who are frustrated should contact the company. Share your concerns with them, none of us here have the answers.

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Didn’t baldy offer to contact MC nearly 2 weeks ago? I wonder what MC told him.
Has anyone received a response?

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This is insane, gold is over 2700.00 and these guys are asleep where they should be promoting the stock with NR’s. Are they stockpiling ore, where are they with the construction of the plant, permits in place, etc…,?

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Have you contacted?

Back some time ago the company was really good about photo logging purchases of too small of a truck and loader that couldn’t lift high enough to fill truck……how about some updated pictures! Maybe the camp, roads actual work pictures.
The song and dance from BB has been going on repeat far too long……show us the results of these past years!

I have not. I would appreciate some current photos.

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Maurizio should get some pr help or hire a professional PR/IR person. Here is a professional update from a company on their construction plant/mill.

Endeavour Silver provides a Q3 2024 construction progress update on Terronera; the surface construction progress has reached 77% completion

VANCOUVER, British Columbia, Oct. 21, 2024 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) – Endeavour Silver Corp. (“Endeavour” or the “Company”) (NYSE: EXK; TSX: EDR) is pleased to provide a Q3 2024 construction progress update for its Terronera Project in Jalisco state, Mexico. A photo gallery presentation accompanies this news release and can be found here or on the Company website at [Terronera Project Progress Photos]

The Terronera project made substantial progress during the third quarter as the Upper Plant Platform nears completion. Surface mill and infrastructure construction reached 90%, further preparing for advancement into operations. Focus continues on the Lower Platform, where concrete work is well underway, and the Tailing Storage Facility, with underdrain embankment fill and pipe installation advancing at a good pace.

“We’re in the final construction phase with the finish line in sight,” commented Don Gray, Chief Operating Officer. “The Upper Platform is nearly complete, and the primary jaw crusher was commissioned, with rock crushed in August. The major focus is the Lower Platform and Tailing Storage Facility. Our dedicated Terronera team continues to meet the challenges both for developing the mine and constructing the mill facilities to keep the project on track to begin commissioning systems near the end of Q4.”

Q3 2024 Construction and Development Highlights

As of September 30, 2024, site works and activities included:

  • Safety – Health and safety for operational readiness is underway. The mine rescue equipment arrived, and team members are being recruited and trained. Two refuge stations were installed.

  • Community Relations – Local community support continues to be a priority. In Q3, the Company supported a series of local initiatives and investments such as: a municipal cooperative agreement; inauguration of an early-childhood development center; scholarships for university students in Santiago de Pinos; municipal road maintenance; workshops for business entrepreneurship for local residents; environmental education program for primary schools; community tree donation; and summer community workshops for children and youth.

  • Progress – Overall project progress (mine development and surface construction) reached 77% completion, with more than $258 million1 of the project’s budget spent to date. Project commitments total $270 million1,2, 99% of the $271 million capital budget.

  • Mine Development – During the third quarter, 1,051 metres were developed underground for a project total of 5,544 metres. Furthermore:

    • Underground explosive magazines were completed and the explosive use permit application was submitted for approval, which is anticipated in Q4 2024.

    • Terronera main sump and pump station excavation and support were completed.

    • Development was nearly complete for the test stope that will be used to verify stope design criteria including opening span widths, length and height as well as establishing longhole drilling, blasting and backfill procedures.

    • Development ore was stockpiled on surface.

    • Slashing of an existing portal commenced for access to mine the high-gold grade La Luz vein, which is anticipated to be reached in H1 2025.

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With Gold now over 2700 don’t know why we didn’t take our stockpile ore to Enami and fund our own plant. Yes it would have cost more but we wouldn’t be needing any financing from outside. Makes me think this is more of an insider to gain a bigger piece of the pie.

Anyone get a response back from the company?

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