Auryn/Medinah 2025 1st half General Discussion

No, he’s pointing them out because after making them objectives, we’ve gotten radio silence on them since then. We all know the situation can change, but if it does change, shouldn’t you notify us of the change? Especially since you stated you had it as an objective. If they are no longer going to sell ore to Enami, then state so. Don’t just leave it opened. Don’t just leave use guessing why. If you are no longer going to be extending the tunnel or beginning an exploitation plan, then state so. etc. etc.

That’s the point in referencing AUMC’s past statements. If they have made these statements in the past as objectives, yet failed to give us any follow up on them, why should we believe AUMC’s current objective of having the plant up and running by Q3 2025?

Because, IMO, their credibility does not exist, they need to be more transparent as it relates to what’s happening not only on the mountain, but with this new financing arrangement/contract for services. IMO, because of their past behavior, I can’t believe anything they state, until they provide specific, detailed, facts. Not objectives, but facts. Currently, IMO, we only have generalities, not specific, detailed, facts.

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Gold over $2,700. Wonder how much that stockpile is worth?

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None of this matters unless our shares are converted as stated years ago!! Where is that

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omg-- can’t believe we are both still alive after all these years and still sucking wind.

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Shockingly still here. I can’t barely to sell what’s left for a coke

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Gold continues to climb. Can someone do the math on what that stockpile is worth given the company actually gave us the tonnage of the stockpile (give them some credit for that). We can use conservative figures for the average grade, but I agree with Doc that this material is very high grade.

Doc and Baldy were correct in their own regards when commenting on average grades to expect. On a grander sustainable scale, of course Baldy was correct that 10gpt was realistic not some grandiose 50gpt+. This was eventually confirmed by MC. Baldy told us he got that from MC himself, so we shouldn’t have been surprised when MC confirmed it publicly.

However, to Doc’s point, the stockpile accumulated to date would not be diluted anywhere close to what we are expecting on a large scale opration. It contains mainly material directly from the vein. That is another reason why MC did not want to take such a huge haircut from Enami, specifically as it pertained to the stockpile. That stockkpile is worth a fortune. Someone intelligent please quantify a reasonable estimate as to how much using today’s gold price of $2,730.

This points out why it was ridiculous not to be able to secure better financing terms than what was originally reported and why DOCs stance on that was self-defeating. The collateral in the stockpile itself should have never allowed a $20M dividend arrangement to be on the table for a $4M loan, given that the collateral in the stockpile is worth multiples of the amount being borrowed. Conveniently that was re-packaged as a service agreement. (Weird). Im still very skeptical of what that $20M service arrangement is all about, but i guess we can just bake that into the AISC and it better be predicated on an enormous rate of production.

There’s no doubt though that the stockpile is worth alot of money and I commend MC for making the correct decision to not sell that ore at a major discount. That was the right move. He didnt communicate it well at all, but it should make posters like Jak167 feel alot better at least as to the “why” part of not shipping this whole time. It certainly doesn’t excuse the poor communication, leading us to believe they should have been or were shipping the whole time.

This is not correct. The stockpiled ore predominately contains all of the barren ore that needed to be removed to find the vein the first, second, and third time. One could and should argue that the stockpiled ore is/was considerably more “diluted” vs. what they can expect to mine in the future. The last couple of months, before they went on “care and maintenace” definitely would have been higher grade.

If you look at what ounces in the ground are trading at today, the higher confidence material (reserves) are trading, on average of $100 per ounce. There are a lot of projects that are trading closer to $10 an ounce. Inferred resources (least confidence) are often getting next to zero value.

To pick a random example that I was looking at today, Falco Resources has 15 million ounces and trades with a $50 million market cap (the same as AUMC’s). Even if you add back the debt and round the cap up to $100 million that’s only $15 per ounce and these are DEFINED resources.

There are admittedly a lot of variables that result in higher and lower grades vs. that average. Reserves waiting to be processed, as part of a defined mine plan, with an adjacent mill in place will clearly be worth more than un-assayed material without a plant. AUMC hasn’t assayed the stockpiles but, at some point in the next 12 months, should have something built to process. Either way, no legitimate financier would consider using a pile of dirt as security/collateral without extensive details on grades/contained ounces. This is why no financier came to the table.

Even if one assumes they have 20,000 ounces sitting in the stockpile (a generous assumption), you’re talking about, at most, $2 million of value which would need to be discounted (loan to value).

There’s been a running narrative that AUMC was able to advance the ball without spending money defining a resource. This may be true but the repercussions are extremely expensive financing (if you can find it) b/c there isn’t a resource to properly value the asset, future cash flows, generate a feasibility study with an NPV, etc. In AUMC’s case they were forced to take on debt, in lieu of attempts for an equity raise. This is extremely rare for exploration or early stage production companies as any interupptions in mining/cash flows makes servicing the debt impossible. Defaulting on the debt means the company loses the assets. Maurizio’s loan clearly doesn’t pose any risk (he won’t enforce). I/we have no idea on how the new $4 million dollar facility works as no details were provided. My guess (very strong suspicion) is that Stratcon is the lender (and beneficiary of the $20 miilion consulting agreement). If that is the case they may be a bit more lenient on tardy interest payments.

If pursuing a drill program wasn’t an industry necessity, nobody would do it! The other repercussion, which will play out if AUMC becomes a producer, will be the challenges of consistently mining when chasing a vein (without any drilling to provide a roadmap). Just because they finally found the vein doesn’t automatically mean they won’t lose it again. Thin, high-grade veins twist and turn, swell and pinch, while going in all sorts of extreme angles.

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Thanks Baldy for your insights, but claiming the stockpile is only worth $2M, I think highlights your negative bias. I also don’t see how using $10 oz market cap example is relevant at all to my question, but instead conveniently shifts the discussion back to your bread and butter, which is undefined resource equals minimal market cap. That point is well taken, by me at least, however you are dodging the fact that there has been value created over time as they eventually found the vein and stockpiled.

I’m not asking to assign value to the company based on estimated total resource. Im talking strictly about estimating the cash equivalent value of the ore that has already been extracted and sitting in a pile waiting to be processed. That has zero to do with the markets evaluation of companies inground resources and 100% to do with how many oz of gold are in that pile.

I think you are off by several million dollars. I would think that pile is worth over $10M. If you ran every last piece of that material through processing and sold it, you are telling me it would only net $2M? Thats laughable. How is 20,000 oz worth $2M. Are we netting $100 an oz? Shouldnt that be closer to $1,000 oz instead of $100, meaning the pile is closer to $20M than it is $2M. Wizard help me out here…Baldy has been served up on a silver platter.

Jimmy. Take a breathe and re-read my post. You asked what the stockpile is worth. I provided a detailed explanation of what the market is currently assigning “in ground resources.” A stockpile would be considered “in ground.”

The private and public markets are assigning, on average $100 per ounce in the ground (for reserves), and under $10 for inferred. Please re-read my previous post which supports those vauations.

AUMC is targeting 20,000 tonnes of ore (stockpiled) by the time they have plant built:

As part of our strategy, we expect to have a stockpile of approximately 20,000 tonnes of ore when the plant becomes operational

If they are planning on 20,000 tonnes a year from now, its reasonable to assume they have 10,000 tonnes stockpiled today. If we assume these 10kt are uber high grade, with minimal dilution (laughable) and grading, on average 60gpt you get 19,000 ounces. (I’d be shocked if the average grade exceeds 10gpt given the amount of barren ore in the mix).

19,000 ounces at $10 per ounce is worth <$2M. Keeping in mind that these ounces aren’t even inferred and would/could only be a wild guess for anyone looking to assign collateral value.

You seem to be confused by the difference b/w the value of unprocessed ore sitting in the ground and what that ore would generate in cash flows when processed. The cash flow of the ounces would obviously be worth spot prices minus costs. This has nothing to do with what its actually worth or what anyone is willing to pay or collateralize against. As we now know, the answer to that is “zero.”

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Baldy, stop with the word salad.

Per your pessimistic numbers, today we have a pile of ore (10,000 tons) sitting ON the ground, NOT IN the ground at 10gpt. That’s 100,000 grams of gold. This equates to approx. 3,200 ounces of gold. Todays gold price is $2,700 per ounce. $2,700 X 3,200oz is $8.6million.

Your $10 per ounce for inferred ounces is for gold they THINK is in the ground but don’t know that they can ever get it out of the ground at a profit.

Please stop trying to confuse everyone.

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Clearly I’m not confused since this is exactly what I’m highlighting, estimating the cash flow value of the stockpile. Spot price minus costs. You continue to deflect to how the market values a resource. Thats not what conversation I was starting, but you continue to go there unprovoked.

You also said we would never get debt financing because their wasn’t a defined resource. Now all of sudden debt financing is worse than equity finacing. There’s minimal risk in this debt financing arrangement despite your claim to the contrary, given the existing stockpile itself can pay off the loan once processed.

Of course there were tradeoffs to bootstrapping versus another round of massive dilution for a drill program. Im highlighting part the positives of bootstrapping. There were no additional shares issued and we have a conventional debt financing at a reasonable interest rate. And we have cashflows of conservatively over $5M to be realized within 12 months of the plant be commissioned. That figure is probably closer to $10M if you figure 100tpd for 200 days at 10gpt average and even an ultra conservative AISC of $1,700 (net $1,000 oz)

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Question for BB or Wiz,

Do you think its feasible for MC to consider dividending out the equivalent needed for Medinah to pay off its debt prior to the share conversion?

I dont remember the exact % ownership of AUMC shares owned by Medinah. Somewhere around 23% correct? Im also not sure of the exact debt obligation remaining for Medinah. It would be nice if we start to hear from AUMC soon what the priority will be for the projected cashflows in some type of order for the below:

  • reinvestment into property development
  • repayment of debt
  • repayment of MC debt
  • dividends
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JimmyP,

You posed a question recently as to the “value” of the ore stockpiled to date by Auryn, now that the price of gold is back over $2,700 per ounce. Without knowing the exact grade and tonnage of that ore as well as the “recovery rates” of the new froth flotation plant as well as the “concentration factor” of the new plant, it would be impossible to come up with a definitive answer. We also don’t know what a Glencore-type metals trader might pay per tonne for Auryn’s “float concentrate” containing “X” grams per tonne gold equivalent. A “float concentrate” is the highly concentrated product of a froth flotation plant. The currently stockpiled ore is the “raw feed” for a final product that is to be sold. The efficiency of the FF plant needs to be “married” to the intra adit “head grade” of the ore in order to determine profitability.

I would suggest that instead of focusing in on the “value” of that stockpiled ore, I’d concentrate on the potential profitability of selling the “float concentrate” that results from the processing of that ore on-site. That’s the metric you really want to know because the profitability brings into the equation the ALL IN SUSTAINING COST (AISC) to produce each ounce of gold contained in that “float concentrate” and the AISC drops precipitously because of the very presence of Auryn’s own on-site “mill”, state of the art froth flotation plant, their recently completed camp, tailings storage facility (TSF), and on-site geochemical assay lab. There’s a lot more going on here than the installation of an FF plant.

I haven’t seen any comments on it on this forum, but I think the key concept to keep in mind is that Auryn is currently on track to have 20,000 tonnes of ore stockpiled and ready to go on Day 1 for the commissioning of the new ore processing facility, froth flotation plant, dry stack tailings storage facility, and new geochemical assay lab. If you can recall what Auryn’s blue 20-tonne truck looks like, this amount of stockpiled ore would fill about 1,000 of those trucks.

The actual “value” of that stockpiled ore will be greatly enhanced by the fact that it will be immediately fed into a recently completed, state of the art froth flotation plant. That stockpiled ore will never have to be “TRANSPORTED” to somebody else’s froth flotation plant. Because of this, that ore will be rapidly “monetized”. Once the FF plant is commissioned, the task at hand will be to keep it busy so that its daily “throughput” ranking of 100 tonnes per day can be sustained and then later surpassed. If it takes the miners time to ramp up production from the adits being mined, initially the Antonino Adit, then the Caren South Adit and the Caren North Adit, this previously stockpiled ore will serve as “ore feed” for the FF plant in that interim timeframe.

On paper, 20,000 tonnes of ore should keep a froth flotation plant with a 100 tpd “throughput” busy for 200-days. In reality, there will be a ramp up process for the froth flotation plant as the engineers and metallurgists “dial in” the idealized flow sheet for maximizing the “recovery” and “concentration factor” of the plant. They will be tweaking things like the idealized concentration of the ethyl xanthate reagent used to maximize gold recovery, the idealized particle “grind size”, the PH of the “pulp” solution, the ideal size of the air bubbles, the “pulp” concentration, the ideal “residence time” within the “cells”, etc.

The “value” of 20,000 tonnes of ore sitting next to a fully dialed-in FF plant, that has already been successfully financed, will greatly exceed that of 20,000 tonnes of ore about to be shipped to an off-site “Enami-type” tolling facility. The superior economics of an FF plant is partly derived from the fact that a lot of the worthless “gangue” surrounding the sought after gold, silver and copper is removed from the raw ore, discarded and stored on-site in a dry stack “tailings storage facility” or “TSF”.

This discarded material will never have to be TRANSPORTED or SMELTED. Without an on-site froth flotation plant, all of that ore, including the discarded “gangue”, would have to be shipped and smelted at great expense. A froth flotation plant will cost about $10 per tonne of ore processed. This includes “CAPEX” and “OPEX” (operating expenses). TRANSPORTATION and SMELTING of one tonne of ore, on the other hand, costs about $225 per tonne in Chile. The economics of an FF plant partially come about by being able to spend $10 per tonne to save approximately $225 per tonne on the material that is discarded. This significantly decreases the AISC because the vast majority of the contents of even extremely high-grade stockpiled ore is worthless “gangue”.

Twenty thousand tonnes of ore is a lot of ore and we know that a certain percentage of it, that which was mined “directly from the vein” since July of 2023 when Auryn started mining in this manner, is probably very high-grade ore. In 3 separate quarterly updates, Auryn management cited that they were continuing to successfully “mine and stockpile” high-grade ore “directly from the DL2 Vein with minimal dilution”. The problem is that we don’t have any tonnage figures for the extremely high-grade ore mined and stockpiled in this fashion to date. All we know is that Auryn is currently on track to have 20,000 tonnes of ore stockpiled and ready to be froth floated on or about July 1, 2025, when the new ore processing facility (mill plus froth flotation plant plus TSF), is scheduled to be commissioned.

TRANSITIONING TO BECOMING A “JUNIOR PRODUCER”

The question arises as to what might change when a junior explorer/developer, like Auryn, successfully turns the corner and becomes a high-grade “junior producer” with its own on-site permitted ore processing facility, with its own recently completed camp, its own on-site assay lab, and its own “dry rack” tailings storage facility, at a time when gold is trading at or near all-time-highs and the issuer only has 70 million shares outstanding.

In retrospect, if Auryn would have spent the perhaps 5 to 10 years needed to fully drill out their various mineral assets, we don’t know what the price of gold would have been on Day 1 of production. We do know that the cash flow would have been deferred by those 5 to 10-years and there is a time value for money. In this example, that extra level of “certainty” would have cost the shareholders an extra 630 million shares of dilution as well as the use of that cash for 5 to 10 years. Maurizio took the “uncertainty” risk, not the shareholders. He rolled the dice and he won.

From an investment point of view, the “crown jewel” in that list of Auryn assets is by far and away the 70 million shares outstanding figure. Making it all of the way into production, with your own on-site ore processing facility, with only 70 million shares issued and outstanding, is insanely fortunate. That could easily have been 700 million shares issued and outstanding if Maurizio would have opted to sell boatloads of shares, often at steep discounts to the prevailing share price due to the implied risk in this sector, in order to drill out all of Auryn’s various assets.

It should be pointed out that there is indeed a trade-off involved. A fully drilled out deposit removes some “uncertainty”. For example, Auryn might have been able to intersect the DL2 Vein much quicker if they had fully drilled out the DL2 Vein.

Another question becomes what benefits might be derived from the recent passage of Chile’s “Small Mining Producers Statute” streamlining current and future permitting efforts for these “junior producers” as well as decreasing applicable tax rates. Chile’s President Gabriel Boric recently reinstated Aurora Williams as the Minister of Mining. She has been a staunch advocate for Chile’s “Small Mining Producers”. The Chilean Congress recently amended Rule No. 21,420 and increased taxes on the major miners in Chile and reduce them on the “junior producers”. The stated goal is to free up the mining concessions that the major miners are sitting on but not developing, so that junior miners can acquire them and start sincere efforts to develop them. It’s a very nice time to be a “junior metals producer” in Chile.

Yet another question becomes what benefit might be derived from Auryn’s landing a $4 million debt financing, a rarity for a junior miner, attached to a contract with a world-class mine operator “Stracon”, owned by the Ashmore Group, which manages about $68 billion through 17 funds while acting in the capacity of an “emerging markets investment manager”.

RECOGNIZING PROGRESS AND VALUE ENHANCEMENT WHEN IT DOES OCCUR

The list of tasks needing to be accomplished in order to put a high-grade gold mining operation into production is seemingly endless. The journey from “Development Stage A” to “Development Stage Z” can be so long that the investors in a company currently at, let’s say, “Development Stage W” may not be able to appreciate just how much has already been accomplished throughout one of these seemingly endless journeys.

Almost a decade ago, Medinah and Auryn hired a firm called EIA Environmental out of Santiago, Chile, to do what is known as a Baseline Environmental Survey. This has to be accomplished before any permitting progress can be made. I don’t think that there are two of us left on this “MiningPlay” investment forum that can remember Medinah and Auryn checking off on this particular “box”, but it represented the first step in a very long journey to being granted “Exploitation Permitting” through Chile’s “Mensura” process.

Upon completion of this one task, the overall “value” of this project went up a notch unbeknownst to those following progress at the time. A LOT OF THE VALUE ENHANCEMENT OF A MINING PROJECT HAS TO DO WITH THE INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO CHECK OFF ON ANY ONE OF A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS LIST OF “BOXES”. It’s the time that no longer needs to be spent on achieving a certain task that helps to create “value”. “The market” rarely appreciates this value enhancement because the participants within “the market” typically don’t realize the enormity of the steps involved.

If the price of gold is breaking out to the upside, it’s already too late to start a gold project sitting at Development Stage “A”. The World Gold Council’s statistics tell us that first of all, about 1-in-1,000 mining projects will ever make it into production. Secondly, their statistics indicate that for that lucky 1-in-1,000 junior explorer, it takes an average of 24 years to go from the commencement of exploration activities to the first day of production. When the price of gold breaks out to the upside, you can’t snap your fingers and go into production. The big fish end up eating the little fish that have persevered and have already checked off on a lot of “boxes” and have proved to the investment world that they have already commenced production or at least are on the brink of commencing production.

When you look at those 2 WGC statistics, you can recognize that if an investor is going to invest in a miner sitting at “Development Stage A”, then he is going to need the “patience of Job” to see that investment through. Others might intuit that the “sweet spot” for investing in this sector is obviously to wait for a mineral discovery to be validated AND THEN WAIT UNTIL THAT PROJECT IS AT THE BRINK OF COMMENCING PRODUCTION PRIOR TO INVESTING A NICKEL. I wish I would have learned this 44 years ago when I started investing in this sector.

The question then arises as to how does one confirm that a project is indeed “AT THE BRINK OF COMMENCING PRODUCTION”. In the Auryn scenario, the path chosen is vastly different from that taken by most mining juniors. Unlike the average junior explorer with a compelling mineral prospect, Auryn opted to finance and build their own on-site ore processing facility composed of a mill, a froth flotation plant, an on-site assay lab, and an ultra-environmentally friendly “dry stack” Tailings Storage Facility or “TSF”.

There was no need for a major miner’s technical capabilities and superior financial resources. The majors will typically make a junior miner with a prospective discovery “DE-RISK” the project so that the major and its shareholders, assume very little risk. They insist on the shareholders of the junior miner shouldering all of that risk. The “DE-RISKING” process typically involves vast amounts of diamond drilling paid for by the sale of shares of the junior miner, often at steep discounts to the prevailing share price due to the implied risk cited by the WGC. The result is typically massive DILUTION of the share structure of even the successful junior miners with a discovery of merit.

In reality, Auryn already entered into “PRODUCTION” back in July of 2023. This is when they started mining and stockpiling extremely high-grade ore “directly from the vein” so that when their new ore processing facility was commissioned, there would be plenty of “ore feed” present to keep the facility busy and the cash flowing. As noted, they are currently on track to have 20,000 tonnes of high-grade ore stockpiled and ready to go on the commissioning date for the new plant, on or around July 1, 2025. Thus, Auryn is not only on the “brink of commencing production”, they are already “in production”.

Auryn recently completed the construction of an all-weather camp that can house approximately 50 workers. They also recently inked a $4 million debt facility that is almost nonexistent amongst the junior miners due to the risk implications. They recently inked a deal with “Stracon”, a world class mine operating firm, that will take over “mine operations” and all that it entails. What’s left to be accomplished is the signing off on the “Technical Dossier” revealing the engineering details of the new plant. The fact that the money has already exchanged hands suggests that the lender is not too concerned about this final check off occurring in a timely manner. The completion of the new camp facility also suggests this.

The question arises as to how all of these recent accomplishments relates to the “value” of the project at a time when the price of gold is at or near all-time highs. The answer to that has a lot to do with what is known as the ALL IN SUSTAINING COST (AISC) to produce each ounce of gold equivalent that Auryn will produce and sell to Glencore or Trafigura. When a metals producer has expended the TIME and successfully landed the FINANCES needed to do the preliminary ore processing on-site, in order to avoid the expense of entering into “tolling agreements” with a party like Enami, the AISC gets driven downwards markedly resulting in a vastly increased “MARGINAL PROFIT” per ounce of gold equivalent produced.

As the number of gold ounces produced per unit of time naturally ramps up over time, then the TOTAL PROFITS will also ramp up accordingly. If all of these things can be accomplished without any added share structure dilution, resulting in only 70 million shares outstanding at the commencement of production, then the EARNINGS PER SHARE metric can reflect a very robust figure. It is true that aligning this many stars over a seemingly endless amount of time is highly unlikely, but it can be done.

The trick for an investor wishing to retain his sanity is to know what the development stages “A-Z” are and be able to gauge progress throughout the journey and be able to ascertain when being on the “brink of production” occurs.

In the mining sector, it is exceedingly difficult to place a valuation on a mining project in the exploration and development stages. Not many people speak “Geojibberish”, and it’s the GEOLOGY that is critical to evaluate at this stage of development. When transitioning into “PRODUCTION”, the visibility gets greatly enhanced for the average investor. Metrics like CASH FLOW and EARNINGS PER SHARE take precedence and investors feel much more comfortable with these than “Geojibberish”.

Auryn’s history is different than many of the other juniors. Most junior miners seek to gain the attention of a mining major or mid-tier player that might either take them out or enter into a joint venture relationship with them. Part of this process involves selling a massive number of shares at ridiculously low share price levels in order to raise the money needed to do the diamond drilling mandated by the major miner prior to appearing on their radar screen. Even after suffering all of this DILIUTION, there is still no guarantee that a major will notice you or be willing to fairly compensate you for your accomplishments. Since the juniors need to pay their monthly “burn rate” by constantly selling shares into the market, an interested major can simply wait the junior out until the constant dilution becomes too much for the junior miner and its shareholders and they cave-in to the demands of the major miner.

If the junior miner fails in gaining the attention of a major after a drill campaign, then they will typically sell yet more shares in order to continue the drilling. After a while, the share structure gets so diluted that even if the junior does make a breakthrough, then the beneficial effect for the shareholders gets muted from the previous share structure dilution.

Maurizio, Auryn’s CEO, took a different approach. He personally was willing to front all of the cash needed to get the project to the “POSITIVE PRODUCTION DECISION” stage of development without charging any interest. I’ve been investing in the juniors for 44 years and I’ve never seen this before, not even close. This bypassed all of that untoward dilution that almost all of the other juniors suffer. In a sense, Maurizio rolled the dice and he won. The willingness of a financier to underwrite the building of the ore processing facility WITHOUT DEMANDING ANY SHARES not only corroborates this victory but it also seals the victory because the need to sell shares in the future will be greatly lessened because an option appears to advance further exploration and development activities from the cash flow.

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I do appreciate your insights but im looking for rough estimates for 12 months net cashflows at 200 days x 100tpd = 20,000oz.

Here ill get you started. Maybe you and Baldy come somewhere close to an agreeable AISC figure.

20,000 tons and 10gpt (estimate) = 200k grams

200k grams /31.1 g/oz ≈ 6,400 oz gold.

6,400 * ($2,750 - $AISC/oz) =

If you 2 brainiacs cant figure out what a reasonable estimate it is on this then really what good is anyone’s input on this board? There has to be some sort of target range. None of these decisons get made without this. Is it somewhere safely between $800 and $1,800 for example?

Can we minimally expect to cashflow $6M + without batting an eye? Can we establish some minimum expectations?

MC is throwing around 10gpt benchmarks, curious if he is throwing around AISC/oz estimates? Wiz?

And you know this how? Did I miss the assay on the stockpile? While its fun to simply multiply ounces with spot prices to come up with fantastical numbers that’s just not how the market works. You can wish it to be the case but, as was demonstrated in AUMC’s inability to recognize ANY value from the stockpile, the reality is still the reality.

The level of defensiveness to my post (my opinion with supporting facts) is very telling.

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I’m using the numbers you just used in your earlier post. 10,000 tons today at not better than 10GPT.

You used an example of 19,000 ounces (10,000 tons X 60gpt) at $10 an ounce. That’s $190,000!!! Do you really think MC would be wasting his time for ounces on the ground worth only $10.

You are misleading everyone.

He’s trying to get back into the game. He can’t get any shares from MDMN on the gray market and doesn’t want to pay .70 for Aumc

To say that I am, or have ever in the past, misled people is laughable. I’m more than happy to measure my accuracy to any other contributors here. Just because you don’t like or are confused by what I’m saying doesn’t make it wrong.

10,000 tonnes of ore at 60gpt is 600,000 grams or 19,000 ounces (as you correctly stated). There ain’t no way that the stockpiled ore is anywhere near that level given that they had to dig out a LOT of barren ore before they even reached the vein. Like 10, 20, or even 50x barren rock vs. ore. Could they have eyeballed and properly seperated and stockpiled the valuable stuff vs. the rest of the rock? To a degree, yes, but it would have been "messy: and there was nothing scientific on the separation.

I attempted to answer the question as to "why the stockpiled wasn’t able to provide security to facilitate more reasonable financing (beyond the $4M + $20M “consulting” agreement in hand).

That stockkpile is worth a fortune. Someone intelligent please quantify a reasonable estimate as to how much using today’s gold price of $2,730

The collateral in the stockpile itself should have never allowed a $20M dividend arrangement to be on the table for a $4M loan, given that the collateral in the stockpile is worth multiples of the amount being borrowed.

I attempted to explain that 1) nobody has any idea how many ounces are in the stockpile and 2) the market does not assign a lot of value to “in ground resources.” Whether the in ground ounces are sitting in a pile or 200 meters below the surface they will still only represent a fraction of spot prices for all of the obvious reasons. I referenced Falco Resources as a example. They also have plans to build a plant by they way but there are 100s/1000s of other comps that highlight the same discounted reality for unmined resouces. Nobody, and I mean nobody multiples best guess ounces times the spot price

Not suprisingly, after specifically answering the question to the value/collateral, I’m accused of having a negative bias and misleading people. So the question was rephrased to how much the stockpile could generate in cashflows. A totally different question and not a consideration when assessing an asset for security/collateral.

I think you are off by several million dollars. I would think that pile is worth over $10M. If you ran every last piece of that material through processing and sold it, you are telling me it would only net $2M? Thats laughable. How is 20,000 oz worth $2M. Are we netting $100 an oz? Shouldnt that be closer to $1,000 oz instead of $100, meaning the pile is closer to $20M than it is $2M. Wizard help me out here…Baldy has been served up on a silver platter.

Nobody, including Maurizio has a good grasp on the AISC. Its high grade (lower AISC) but a narrow vein (higher AISC), its a small scale operation (higher AISC) but they can start, blindly, with the stockpile with next to zero mining costs (lower initial AISC), the FF concentrate will come with an offtake discount (higher AISC) but the initial stages of mining won’t be very mechanized and the labor is cheap (lower AISC). My guess is that AISC wil be $1000 to $1200 per ounce. If there are 6,000 ounces in the stockpile (nobody really knows but using 20,000 tonnes and 10gpt) they could generate $9,000,000 in cash flow (at $2700oz gold) over the next 24-30 months. If none of this free CF is reinvested in the project or exploration the $4M debt facility and a portion of Maurizio’s debt could be paid down, over the three years post commissioning of the plant (I’ll happily wager with anyone on this board that this will be a 2026 event). I have no idea how this $20M “consulting fee” is structured but, Stracon is known to be pretty aggressive.

Any discussion of dividends, over the next 3 years, are pretty insane but if AUMC is able to generate $4M a year they should be able to grow into the current valuation. I would agree that 70 million shares is a tight float but, unfortunately a $50M market cap ($65M enterprise value) for a company at this stage with a POTENTIAL production profile of 3 to 5k ounces a year is very rich.

Exploration upside, scaling production, etc. once they have the capital to make those types of investments are the key to meaninful upside.

But hey, if it would be less misleading, simply multiply the guestimate for ounces in the ground by spot, assume the entire mountain is mineralized, set up the lawn chair, get prepared for a dividend ATM, and call it a world class deposit. The potential was soooo huge, and the stockpile was soooo rich, that they were “lucky” enough to land debt financing after 12 months of looking for money, and still only have 70 million shares outstanding. As far as I’m concerned, the company is meticulously following a 10 year game plan, has been in production since July of 2023. Maurizio “rolled the dice and won”! Too early to call it a “victory”? Hell no!

Some folks never learn.

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The ore has to be fed thruogh the plant for 200 days and the concentrate sold.

Im curious as to why that would cost 6,000oz x $1,000 AISC/oz = $6M in costs?

Is it really going to cost $6M to process and sell 6k oz when we have a plant? Thats the next question that really needs answering.

6k oz x $2,750 = $16.5 in Gross Revenue

$6M+ in costs to run the operation? Seems high for having a plant.

Its very possible we net $10M plus the first year